Tuesday, 14 March 2017

Kicker-Verlag, Nürnberg - Die Deutschen Nationalspieler (4)


1938
Die Deutschen Nationalspieler
Kicker-Verlag, Nürnberg
Germany
392 cards

Raymond Brzyski has provided some information about this set.
I have card #392 - Fritz Walter. I purchased it from a German collector who shared, at my request, some information with me about this particular set of cards. If you will allow me, I would like to share this info with you. 
He referred to the set as "Kicker - Bilderwerk". A complete set at 392 cards (393 & 394) were not issued. Apparently, the cards were issued from the Kicker magazine during the period 1937 - 1940.
The backs of the cards indicate that all the players shown (in their liga club team jerseys) played as German National Team players. This historic list apparently goes right back to the beginning of the German National Team. 
The first group produced is a listing of German Nationals right up to 1938. I believe that this is mentioned on the back of one of the cards you show in the listing. The backs also mention that the players shown were involved with or wore the colors of the National Team.
The "Walter" card that I have appears to be the last card in the set, most likely a supplemental set from 1939-1940. Of this I am not sure, perhaps only 1940. The Walter card must be 1940, since the 20 year old Walter only played his first game for Germany in 1940. In any event, it appears that the entire set extends to 1940.
I hope something said here is of assistance in further identifying this particular set of cards.
Raymond has sent in a scan of a different back design. It's a fairly low numbered card so it's possible that most cards have three different backs, and if the later cards were issued in two stages that might explain how there are three different back designs. Unfortunately it's all just speculation though.
I've split the checklist in to two parts, the first part is the original list of players in alphabetical order ending with Karl Zolper. The second part is the high-number cards. This part also includes cards that I don't know the numbers of that don't seem to fit in the alphabetical list in part one. 
It's possible one or two of these players may have to be moved to part one and there might be one or two in part one that need to be moved to part two. 
I have included two additional lists; Appendix 1 relists the high-numbered cards and adds the international appearances for some of the players. I was hoping there would be some sort of order to the way the additional cards were added to the collection. With this in mind I started adding details of some of the players appearances for the German national team. I didn't complete this task as I decided I couldn't see any sort of pattern to the way the players were numbered. They played a lot of games from 1938 to 1940 and Appendix 2 is a list of all the fixtures played from 1938 through to the end of 1940.

  • 1 to 310 looks good, even though there are a few gaps and a few cards listed without numbers.
  • 310 to Karl Zolper (whatever number he is) is a bit of a mess, plenty of gaps and cards without numbers
  • 349 and higher. The main set seems to have been produced prior to the 1938 World Cup tournament. The higher numbers seem to feature players who made their debut in the second half of 1938 and through to 1940. 
  • Two players numbered 375. I presume one is right and one is wrong, but I don't know which.

Die Deutschen Nationalspieler - Part 1

1.  Albrecht, Erich (SC Wacker Leipzig)
2.  Albrecht, Ernst (Fortuna Düsseldorf)
3.  Altvater, Heinrich (FC Wacker München)
4.  Appel, Hans (Hertha BSC Berlin)
5.  Arlt, Willi (Riesaer SV)
6.  Au, Alfred
7.  Auer, Karl
8.  Bache, Fritz (Hertha BSC Berlin)
9.  Bantle, Ernst
10.  Baumgärtner, Willy
11.  Baumgarten, Fritz
12.  Bauwens, Dr. (Peter Joseph) “Peco”
13.  Becker, Fritz (Eintract Frankfurt)
14.  Beier, Albert (Hamburger SV)
15.  Bender, Jakob
16.  Berghausen, Alfred
17.  Bergmaier, Josef
18.  Bernard, Robert
19.  Berndt, Hans
20.  Bert, (Freidrich) Adalbert
21.  Berthold, Rudolf
22.  Billen, Mathias (VfL Osnabruck)
23.  Billmann, Willi (1.FC Nürnberg)
24.  Blum, Ernst (VfB Stuttgart)
25.  Blunk, Walter (Hamburger SV)
26.  Bökle, Otto
27.  Bollmann, Albert
28.  Borck, Dr. Walter (Hamburger SV)
29.  Bosch, Hermann
30.  Breuer, Theo (Fortuna Düsseldorf)
31.  
32.  
33.  
34.  
35.  
36.  
37.  Burger, Karl (Greuther Fürth)
38.  Burkhardt, Theodor
39.  Busch, Willy
40.  Conen, Edmund (Stuttgarter Kickers)
41.  Damminger, Ludwig
42.  Deike, Fritz (Hannover 96)
43.  Diemer, Kurt (1.FSV Mainz 05)
44.  Ditgens, Heinz (Borussia Mönchengladbach)
45.  Droz, Rudolf
46.  Dumke, Otto
47.  Dutton, Edward (Newcastle United)
48.  Eckert, Jakob (Wormatia Worms)
49.  
50.  
51.  
52.  
53.  Elbern, Franz
54.  Emmerich, Heinz
55.  Ertl, Georg
56.  Eschenlohr, Albert
57.  Esser, Josef
58.  Euler, Georg (1.FC Köln)
59.  Faas, Robert 
60.  Falk, Wilhelm
61.  Fath, Josef (Wormatia Worms)
62.  Fick, Willy (FV Holstein Kiel)  -   updated
63.  Fiederer, Leo (SpVgg Fürth)  -   updated
64.  Fischer, Erich  -   updated
65.  Fischer, Paul  -   updated
66.  
67.  
68.  Flick, Hermann
69.  
70.  Förderer, Fr.
71.  
72.  
73.  Franz, Andr.
74.  Willy Fricke  -   updated
75.  Friedel, Georg (1.FC Nürnberg)
76.  Fritsche, Walter  -   updated
77.  Fürst, Fritz (FC Bayern München)
78.  Gablonsky, Max (FC Bayern München)
79.  Gäbelein, Arthur
80.  Garn (Ehlers), Hermann
81.  Gauchel, Josef
82.  Gedlich, Richard
83.  Gehlhaar, Paul (Hertha BSC Berlin)
84.  Gehrts, Adolf (Viktoria Hamburg)
85.  Geiger, Hans (1.FC Nürnberg)
86.  Gellesch, Rudolf (FC Schalke 04)
87.  Glaser, Dr. Joseph
88.  Goldbrunner, Ludwig (FC Bayern München)
89.  Gramlich, Hermann
90.  Gramlich, Rudolf (Eintract Frankfurt)
91.  
92.  
93.  
94.  Günther, W.
95.  Haftmann, M.
96.  Hagen, Hans
97.  
98.  
99.  
100.  Harder, Tull (Hamburger SV)
101.  Haringer, Sigmund (FC Bayern München)
102.  Hartmann, Karl
103.  Heidemann, Matthias
104.  Heidkamp, Conny (FC Bayern München)
105.  Hempel, Walter (FC Sportfreunde 1900 Leipzig)
106.  Hense, Robert (1.FC Köln)
107.  Hensel, Gustav (Casseler FV)
108.  Herberger, Josef (Waldof Mannheim)
109.  Hergert, Heinrich (FK Pirmasens)
110.  Hiller, Arthur
111.  
112.  Hirth, Herbert (Hertha BSC Berlin)
113.  Hochgesang, Georg (1.FC Nürnberg)
114.  Höger, Karl (SV Waldorf Mannheim)
115.  Höschle, Adolf
116.  Hofmann, Ludwig (FC Bayern München)
117.  Hofmann, Richard
118.  Hofmeister, Ludwig (FC Bayern München)
119.  Hohmann, Karl
120.  Hollstein, Ernst (Karlsruher FV)
121.  Horn, Franz (Hamburger SV)
122.  Hornauer, Josef (1.FC Nürnberg)
123.  Huber, Alfred
124.  Huber, Lor.
125.  Hunder, Paul
126.  Hundt, Eduard (Werder Bremen)
127.  Hutter, Willy
128.  Ilmer, Eberhardt
129.  Jäger, Adolf (Altona 93)
130.  Jakob, Hans (FC Bayern München)
131.  Janes, Paul (Fortuna Düsseldorf)
132.  Jordan, Ernst (FuCC 1897 Magdeburg)
133.  Jungtow, Otto (Hertha BSC Berlin)
134.  Jürrissen, Willy
135.  Kalb, Dr.Hans (1.FC Nürnberg)
136.  Kauer, Erich
137.  Kießling, 
138.  Kipp, Eugen
139.  Kirsei, Willi (Hertha BSC Berlin)
140.  Kitzinger, Albin
141.  Klaas, Werner
142.  Kling, Eugen (1860 München)
143.  Knöpfle, Georg
144.  Kneseback, Willi
145.  Kobierski, Stanislaus (Fortuna Düsseldorf)
146.  Köhl, Georg (1.FC Nürnberg)
147.  Köhler, Georg (VfB Dresden)
148.  Könen, Theo
149.  Köpplinger, Emil (1.FC Nürnberg)
150.  Krauße, Emil (Hertha BSC Berlin)
151.  Krauße, Walter (Hertha BSC Berlin)
152.  Krauß, Willy
153.  Kreß, Anton
154.  Kreß, Willy
155.  
156.  Krumm, Franz (FC Bayern München)
???.  Kugler, Paul (Berliner SC)
???.  
159.  Kühnle, Paul
160.  Kund, Willi (1.FC Nürnberg)
161.  Kuhnt, Werner
162.  Kupfer, Andreas (Schweinfurt 05)
163.  Kutterer, Emil (FC Bayern München)
164.  Kuzorra, Ernst
165.  Lachner, Ludwig
166.  Lang, Hans
167.  Langenbein, Kurt
168.  Lehner, Ernst
169.  Leinberger, Ludwig
170.  Leip, Rudolf
171.  Lenz, August (Borussia Dortmund)
172.  Lindner, Willi (Eintract Frankfurt)
173.  Löble, Otto
174.  Lohnels, Hans
175.  Lohrmann, Theo (SV Waldhof Mannheim)
176.  Ludewig, Heinz
177.  Ludwig, Johannes (Holstein Kiel)
178.  Ludwig, Karl
179.  
180.  Lux, Hermann
181.  Männer, Ludwig (Hannover 96)
182.  Mahlmann, Heinz (Hamburger SV)
183.  Malecki, Edmund (Hannover 96)
184.  Malik, Richard (Beuthen 09)
185.  Maneval, Helmuth
186.  Mantel, Hugo (Eintract Frankfurt)
187.  Marohn, Arthur
188.  Martwig, Otto
189.  Massini, Erich
190.  Mathies, Paul
191.  Matthies, Paul
192.  Mauch, Paul (Vfb Stuttgart)
193.  Mechling, Heinrich
194.  Mehl, Paul (Fortuna Düsseldorf)
195.  Meißner, Kurt
196.  Möller, Ernst (Holstein Kiel)
197.  Mohns, Arthur
198.  Montag, Otto (Hertha BSC Berlin)
199.  Müller, Ernst (Hertha BSC Berlin)
200.  Müller, Friedrich
201.  Müller, Henry
202.  Müller, Sepp (Werder Bremen)
???.  Munkert, Andreas (1.FC Nürnberg)
204.  Münzenberg, Reinhold (Alemannia Aachen)
205.  Nagelschmitz, Ernst
???.  Neumann (SC Dresden)
???.  
???.  
???.  
210.  Niederbacher, Max
211.  Noack, Rudolf
212.  Oberle, Emil
213.  Oehler, Klaus (Arminia Bielefeld)
214.  Oehm, Richard (1.FC Nürnberg)
215.  Panse, Herbert
216.  Paulsen
217.  Philipp, Ludwig
218.  Pörtgen, Ernst (FC Schalke 04)
219.  Poetzsch, Ernst
220.  Pöttinger, Josef (FC Bayern München)
221.  Pohl, Erich
222.  Politz, Karl (Hamburger SV)
223.  Popp, Luitpold (1.FC Nürnberg)
224.  Poppe, Walter
225.  Queck, Richard
226.  Rasselnberg, Josef
227.  Reese, Hans
228.  Reinmann, Baptist (1.FC Nürnberg)
229.  Reiser, Otto
230.  Reislant, Otto
231.  Reißmann, Martin (Guts Muts Dresden)
232.  Retter, Fritz (VfB Stuttgart)
233.  Richter, Leopold
234.  Riegel, Karl (1.FC Nürnberg)
235.  Riso I, Heinrich (Wacker Leipzig)
236.  Riso II, Hans
237.  Risse, Walter (Hamburger SV)
238.  Ritter, Oskar (Holstein Kiel)
239.  Rodzinski, J.
240.  Rohde, Hans
241.  Rohr, Oskar
242.  Rohwedder, Otto (Hamburger SV)
243.  Rokosch, Ernst
244.  Roller, Gustav
245.  Röpnak, Helmuth
246.  Rose, Walther
247.  Ruch, Hans (Hertha BSC Berlin)
248.  Ruchay, Fritz
249.  Rutz, Willi (VfB Stuttgart)
250.  Sackenheim, August
251.  Schädler, Erwin (Eintracht Frankfurt)
252.  Schäfer, Max
253.  Scherm, Karl (1.FSV Mainz 05)
254.  Schilling, Christopher (SV Duisburg)
255.  Schlosser, Karl (SC Planitz)
256.  Schmidt, Christian (Germanis Berlin)
257.  Schmidt, Hans
258.  Schmidt, Hans "Bumbes"
259.  Schmitt, Josef (1.FC Nürnberg)
260.  Schneider, G. (FC Bayern München)
261.  Schneider, Johan
262.  Schnürle, Fritz
263.  Schön, Helmut
264.  Schröder, Erich
265.  Schröder, Hans
266.  Schulz, Fritz (Hertha BSC Berlin)
267.  Schülz, Karl (Union Oberschöneweide)
268.  Schülz (Holstein Kiel)
269.  Schülz, Werner
270.  Schumann, Georg
271.  Schümmelfelder, Jos.
272.  Schütz, Franz (Eintracht Frankfurt)
273.  Schwartz, Hans
274.  Schwedler, Willi (VfB Berlin Pankow)
275.  Schweickert, Hermann
276.  Seiderer, Leonhard “Loni”
277.  Sievert, Helmut (Hannover 96)
278.  Siffling, Otto
279.  Simetsreiter, Wilhelm (FC Bayern München)
280.  Sobek, Hanne
281.  Sold, Wilhelm
282.  Sonnrein, Heinrich
283.  Sorkale, Walter
284.  Stephan, Günther
285.  Stössel, Kurt (Holstein Kiel)
286.  Strassburger, Willy
287.  Striebinger, Karl
288.  Strobel, Wolfgang (1.FC Nürnberg)
289.  Stubb, Hans (Eintract Frankfurt)
290.  Stuhlfauth, Heinrich (1.FC Nürnberg)
291.  Stuhrk, Werner
292.  Sukop, Albert
293.  Sutor, Hans (1.FC Nürnberg)
294.  Szepan, Fritz
295.  Tänzer, Willi
296.  Tewes, Karl (Hertha BSC Berlin)
297.  Thiel. Otto (Prussen Berlin)
298.  Tibulski, Hans (FC Schalke 04)
299.  Tibulski, Otto (FC Schalke 04)
300.  Tiefel, Wilhelm (Eintract Frankfurt)
301.  Träg, Heinrich
302.  Trautmann, Wilhelm (VfR Mannheim)
303.  Ugi, Camillo (VfB Leipzig)
304.  Uhle, Karl (VfB Leipzig)
305.  Umbach, Joseph (1.FC Mönchengladbach)
306.  Unfried, Gustav (Kickers Stuttgart)
307.  Urban, Adolf (FC Schalke 04)
308.  Völker, Otto (Preußen Berlin)
309.  Völker, Willi (Hertha BSC Berlin)
310.  Voß, Kurt (Holstein Kiel)
???.  
312.  Warnken, Heinz (VfB Komet Bremen)
313.  Weber, Albert
314.  
315.  
316.  Wegele, Karl (Phönix Karlsruhe)
???.  Weißenbacher (1.FC Pforzheim)
???.  Welker, Hans (FC Bayern München)
???.  
320.  Wellhöfer, G.
321.  
322.  Wendl, J. (1860 München)
???.  Werner, August (Hamburger SV)
???.  Werner, Heinz (1.SV Jena)
???.  
???.  
???.  
328.  Wetzel, Fritz
329.  
330.  Widmayer, W.
331.  Wieder, Ludwig (1.FC Nürnberg)
332.  
333.  Wigold, Willi (Fortuna Düsseldorf)
334.  
335.  
336.  
337.  
338.  
339.  
340.  
341.  
342.  
343.  
344.  
345.  Winkler  (Schalke 04)
???.  Winkler, Paul (Schwarz Weiß Essen)
???.  Wolpers, Edu (Hamburger SV)
Wolter, Karl
Worpitzky, Willi
Wünderlich, Georg
Zielinski, Paul
Zilgas, Karl
???.  Zörner, Carl
???.  Zolper, Karl (Alemennia Aachen)

Die Deutschen Nationalspieler - Part 2

349.  Schmaus, Willy (First Vienna FC)
350.  
351.  
352.  Wagner, Franz (Rapid Wien)
353.  
354.  
355.  
356.  
357.  
358.  
359.  
360.  
361.  
362.  
363.  
364.  Pekarek, Josef (SC Wacker Wien)
365.  
366.  
367.  Reitermaier, Ernst (Wacker Wien)
368.  
369.  
370.  
371.  Stroh, Josef (Austria Wien)
372.  Streitle, Jakob (FC Bayern München)
373.  Berg, Walter
375.  Deyhle, Erwin (Stuttgarter Kickers)
375.  Dzur, Walter (Dresdner SC)
376.  Hanreiter, Franz (SK Admira Wien)
377.  Heibach, Hans (Fortuna Düsseldorf)
378.  Hofer, Franz (SC Rapid Wien)
379.  Hofstätter, Johann (SC Rapid Wien)
380.  Holz, Friedel (TuS Duisburg)
381.  Kaburek, Matthias (Rapid Wien)
382.  Krüger, Kurt (Fortuna Düsseldorf)
383.  Kubus, Richard (Gleiwitz)
384.  Marischka, Otto (Admira Wien)
385.  Martinek, Alexander (S.K. Wacker Wien)
386.  Merkel, Max (SC Rapid Wien)
387.  Moog, Alfons (Eintract Frankfurt)
388.  Platzer, Peter (Admira Wien)
389.  Plener, Ernst (Gleiwitz)
390.  Schneider, Helmuth (Waldhf Mannheim)
391.  Skoumal, Stefan (SK Rapid Wien)
392.  Walter, Fritz (1.FC Kaiserslautern)
393.  not issued
394.  not issued

???.  Binder, Franz "Bimbo" (Rapid Wien) 
???.  Jakobs, Johannes (Hannover 96) 
???.  Mock, Hans (FK Austria Wien)
???.  Picard, Alfred (1.SSV Ulm)
???.  Pöhler, Ludwig (Hannover 96)
???.  Raftl, Rudolf (Rapid Wien)
???.  Sabeditsch, Ernst (Vienna Wien)370.  

Die Deutschen Nationalspieler - Appendix 1

349.  Schmaus, Willy (First Vienna FC)   - 1938 Switzerland, Romania; 1939 Belgium, Italy, Hungary, Norway; 1940 Yugoslavia
352.  Wagner, Franz (Rapid Wien)   - 1938 Romania; 1942 Croatia, Switzerland
364.  Pekarek, Josef (SC Wacker Wien)   - 1939 Slovakia
367.  Reitermaier, Ernst (Wacker Wien)   - 1939 Slovakia
371.  Stroh, Josef (Austria Wien)   - 1938 Switzerland, Poland, Romania; 1939 Yugoslavia
372.  Streitle, Jakob (FC Bayern München)   - 1938 Switzerland; 1939 Belgium, Yugoslavia, Ireland, Denmark; 1940 Bulgaria, Yugoslavia
373.  Berg, Walter   - 1938 Luxembourg
375.  Deyhle, Erwin (Stuttgarter Kickers)   - 1939 Estonia
375.  Dzur, Walter (Dresdner SC)   - 1940 Finland, Slovakia; 1941 Finland
376.  Hanreiter, Franz (SK Admira Wien)
377.  Heibach, Hans (Fortuna Düsseldorf)
378.  Hofer, Franz (SC Rapid Wien)
379.  Hofstätter, Johann (SC Rapid Wien)
380.  Holz, Friedel (TuS Duisburg)
381.  Kaburek, Matthias (Rapid Wien)
382.  Krüger, Kurt (Fortuna Düsseldorf)
383.  Kubus, Richard (Gleiwitz)
384.  Marischka, Otto (Admira Wien)
385.  Martinek, Alexander (S.K. Wacker Wien)
386.  Merkel, Max (SC Rapid Wien)
387.  Moog, Alfons (Eintract Frankfurt)
388.  Platzer, Peter (Admira Wien)
389.  Plener, Ernst (Gleiwitz)
390.  Schneider, Helmuth (Waldhf Mannheim)   - 1940 Finland
391.  Skoumal, Stefan (SK Rapid Wien)   - 1938 Switzerland, Romania; 1940 Yugoslavia
392.  Walter, Fritz (1.FC Kaiserslautern)   - 1940 Romania, Finland, Hungary, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Denmark; 1941 Switzerland, Hungary, Switzerland, Romania, Croatia, Sweden, Denmark, Slovakia; 1942....
???.  Binder, Franz "Bimbo" (Rapid Wien)   - 1939 Belgium, Slovakia, Bohemia, Italy; 1940 Hungary, Yugoslavia, Italy, Denmark; 1941 Romania
???.  Jakobs, Johannes (Hannover 96)   - 1939 Estonia
???.  Mock, Hans (FK Austria Wien)   - 1938 Switzerland, Romania; 1941 Croatia
???.  Picard, Alfred (1.SSV Ulm)
???.  Pöhler, Ludwig (Hannover 96)
???.  Raftl, Rudolf (Rapid Wien)   - 1938 Switzerland, Switzerland, Romania; 1939 Bohemia, Italy; 1940 Yugoslavia
???.  Sabeditsch, Ernst (Vienna Wien)   - 1939 Slovakia

Die Deutschen Nationalspieler - Appendix 2

147.  20/03/1938.  Luxembourg  ..  ..  H  ..  2-1
148.  20/03/1938.  Hungary  ..  ..  H  ..  1-1
149.  24/04/1938.  Portugal  ..  ..  H  ..  1-1
150.  14/05/1938.  England  ..  ..  H  ..  3-6
151.  04/06/1938.  Switzerland  ..  ..  A  ..  1-1 (World Cup)
152.  09/06/1938.  Switzerland  ..  ..  A  ..  2-4 (World Cup)
153.  18/09/1938.  Poland  ..  ..  H  ..  4-1
154.  25/09/1938.  Romania  ..  ..  A  ..  4-1
155.  29/01/1939.  Belgium  ..  ..  A  ..  4-1
156.  26/02/1939.  Yugoslavia  ..  ..  H  ..  3-2
157.  26/03/1939.  Luxembourg  ..  ..  A  ..  1-2
158.  26/03/1939.  Italy  ..  ..  A  ..  2-3
159.  23/05/1939.  Ireland  ..  ..  H  ..  1-1
160.  22/06/1939.  Norway  ..  ..  A  ..  4-0
161.  25/06/1939.  Denmark  ..  ..  A  ..  2-0
162.  29/06/1939.  Estonia  ..  ..  A  ..  2-0
163.  27/08/1939.  Slovakia  ..  ..  A  ..  0-2
164.  24/09/1939.  Hungary  ..  ..  A  ..  1-5
165.  15/10/1939.  Yugoslavia  ..  ..  A  ..  5-1
166.  22/10/1939.  Bulgaria  ..  ..  A  ..  2-1
167.  12/11/1939.  Bohemia & Moravia  ..  ..  H  ..  4-4
168.  26/11/1939.  Italy  ..  ..  H  ..  5-2
169.  03/12/1939.  Slovakia  ..  ..  H  ..  3-1
170.  07/04/1940.  Hungary  ..  ..  H  ..  2-2
171.  14/04/1940.  Yugoslavia  ..  ..  H  ..  1-2
172.  05/05/1940.  Italy  ..  ..  A  ..  2-3
173.  14/07/1940.  Romania  ..  ..  H  ..  9-3
174.  01/09/1940.  Finland  ..  ..  H  ..  13-0
175.  15/09/1940.  Slovakia  ..  ..  A  ..  1-0
176.  06/10/1940.  Hungary  ..  ..  A  ..  2-2
177.  20/10/1940.  Bulgaria  ..  ..  H  ..  7-3
178.  03/11/1940.  Yugoslavia  ..  ..  A  ..  0-2
179.  17/11/1940.  Denmark  ..  ..  H  ..  1-0

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